Saturday, June 25, 2011

Apologia Pro Bloga Sua or Sticking up for nasty and calling it nice

This needs to be read after reading Richard Collins's post - http://linenonthehedgerow.blogspot.com/2011/06/am-i-nasty-catholic.html and my last post -
http://left-footer.blogspot.com/2011/06/in-praise-of-nasty-catholics.html

Shadowlands has described me as "sticking up for nasty and calling it nice". I apologise to her and anyone else of good will whom I have offended. Perhaps if I explain without irony what I meant, it will be seen that offence was certainly intended, but only to the 'enemy', and that what I ironically called 'nasty' is in fact very nice indeed.

To begin with the concrete and historical, Constantine, King Alfred, St Joan of Arc, Ferdinand and Isablella, Don John of Austria, King Jan Sobieski, the poet Roy Fuller, the Polish Home Army, the killers of Heydrich were all nasty in that they killed to preserve what they saw as rightfully theirs or their fellow Catholics': their religion, native land, or civilisation.

Can it be realistically argued that the world would not be a better place if Hitler, Goebbels, and Himmler had been assassinated in 1940, or if Luther had been executed before he really got going?
Saint Thomas More was definitely not 'nice' to Luther. Of course, he was not martyred for being 'nasty', but for telling the truth about the so-called 'reformation', as he had told it earlier about Luther.

Jesus himself said thet he had come to bring "not peace but a sword". The sword, or its modern equivalent is sometimes necessary for those who have something to protect.

I proposed three enemies in my post: the first dedicated, courageous, but wrong - militant Islam. A worthy enemy with whom we have much in common, if he tried to kill me, I would be obliged to try and kill him first. Very nasty.

Secondly, the 'liberal' West , morbid from the deep tumour of the Frankfurt School. Not a worthy enemy, and to be denounced, trounced, exposed whenever possible.

Thirdly, the enemy within: those "Catholics" who deny or blur the essential teachings of the Church, leading the young into unchastity, defending the indefensible: abortion, tring to accommodate our Religion to what is socially acceptable. They should be attacked as St Thomas More attacked, vigorously, reletlessly, without mincing words or  fear of giving offence.

They are the poison in the Church.

I have nothing dire to say of Charismatics. I do not think for one minute that they are the enemy.

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

"Can it be realistically argued that the world would not be a better place if Hitler, Goebbels, and Himmler had been assassinated in 1940, or if Luther had been executed before he really got going?"

This is consequentialism and is against Catholic teachings.

Edward Feser has a good post on the subject here:

http://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2010/08/happy-consequentialism-day.html

Left-footer said...

Anonymous - thank you. I have read Feser's article, and am rather glad he was not running WW2 for the allies.

By 1940, or even 1937, it was obvious where the Nazis were headed, and I suggest that the killing of the leaders would have been justified.

I read somewhere that Catholic teaching does not forbid the "pre-emptive strike". I must read up on this.

me said...

Just saw this Left footer! Thank you for clarifying that. I shall point Richard to this post aswell!
I was worried you would put me on your kill list afer he dobbed me in re my post hahaha! (Why am I laughing? Relief!)

Richard Collins said...

Sorry for any upset I may have caused anyone. I interpreted Shadowlands post as a criticism of your original one Christopher.
I am definitely a nasty Catholic!

me said...

I think it's important that Richard gets the blame for all the misunderstanding......as it gets me nicely (or do I mean nastily?), off the hook... ;)

Left-footer said...

I wasn't upset, but feared others were.

I really must insist on being the nastiest, and am thinking of starting a movement: NASTY PRIDE, to fight the efforts of mainstream liberal Superbophobes to marginalise people like me.

No rainbow flag, but a banner with Saint Michael crushing Satan.

Richard Collins said...

Shadowlands....that's positively unfriendly :)
Starting a new blog called "The Nasty Catholic" !

me said...

Eh Richard,

Have you seen Left-footer's other blog? The Hermenuetic of Cool? It makes this one seem like a children's bedtime story. He even issues a death threat on himself, if I've read it correctly! He's not to be crossed. Good job we caught him in a good mood I reckon!!!!!