Thursday, August 23, 2012

An Uneasy Silence

At a dinner party years ago, someone, not I, half seriously proposed a campaign for the Beatification of General Franco.

There was an uneasy silence. It is not done to talk politics or religion at English dinner parties.

I think that if I were young and living in England, some form of Catholic fascism might well appeal to me, as it did to Roy Campbell.

5 comments:

Richard Collins said...

Ah, Roy Campbell, great man, great poet. As for Franco, Spain may have been a poorer country under his rule but it was also a purer country.

ignorant redneck said...

By and large, I've come to realize the differences between the Fascism of the Right, and Progressive Collectivism on the left are minor, and only two.

The right is straight forawrd about things, more or less, and won't try to tell you that the Faith is the problem.

Before some semi-educated, semi-historically-aware individual brings up the Italian and the German fascists, I will point out that both of them originated in Socialist thought--on the left.

Mike Cliffson said...

The Hypocritical pass that Uncle Joe Stalin, Pol Pot et al let alone massmurdering Castro and charm-as- you-shoot Che get is sickening, let alone we-did-it-to-ourselves baby murder in Christendom.
I defend Francisco Franco, at root acatholic who might be on the pew twixt thee and me, against his detractors, but you couldn't uphold his rule as explemplary.It wasn't the right side that won the Spanish civil war, It was the wrong side that lost.
Abortion especially makes anybody who didn't and wouldn't look good.
But Im not a catholic because other things are worse nor do I think filling churches at bayonet point is the way to do things.
I think you could probably make a better case for Pilsudski.

Mike Cliffson said...

Sad to learn that of Pilsudski! The colourful Poles of my UK yuf often heroworshipped him, and went into Polish when they quarreled about him, (or anything , which was invariable sooner or later.) The local catholic secondary history teacher (six foot plus, exarmy, stocky) got into trouble over him: irate Polish father small but terrier- like: Approx: My Maria have crucifix over bed, pictures other wall of Our lady AND Pilsudski , every night she finish prayers with prayer for Pilsudski, then she come to CATHOLIC school and YOU TELL HER PILSUDSKI IS TRAIN BANDIT!!!!"

Left-footer said...

Mike Cliffson - thank you for the brilliant and very typical story, and sorry to be so late in replying.

Piłsudski was quite a swashbuckling character, and is a something of a controversial figure here. I'm not really sure about the apostasy, and hope it's not true.